The Ropucha-class landing ship can transport 10 main battle tanks and 340 troops or 12 BTRs and 340 troops or 3 main battle tanks, 3 2S9 Nona-S, 5 MT-LBs, 4 army trucks and 313 troops or 500 tons of cargo. Six Russian ships go past UK sparking fears they are going to Ukraine There is currently another Russian flotilla heading for the Med, this time the flagship cruiser and escort from their Pacific Fleet. We reported earlier that amid ongoing tensions between Russia and Ukraine, the Russian navy has sortied 5 Ropucha-class landing ships and one Ivan Gren-class landing ship from their Baltic fleet, likely headed to the Black Sea. He urged Putin to take 'the path of diplomacy and dialogue to try to resolvedifferences there are peacefully' hours after the Biden administration said it would provide an additional $200 million in defensive military aid to Ukraine in the face of Russian aggression. As they have plenty of gear around Ukraine already it makes sense that at least some of the 6 are bound for Tartus. Two weeks ago nearly a dozen warships and combat aircraft from Russia's Northern, Baltic and Black Sea fleets gave a "show of force in the waters off the British and Irish coasts" General . 'Dangerous moment': Russian naval buildup near Ukraine - POLITICO Which begs the question why? Ill also add American Democrats have a strong distaste for Putin starting roughly in early 2017 when US intelligence agencies determined Russia helped elect Trump. The situation is quiet at the moment but when Idlib lights up the Russians will be there in force. Thanks Mark it just seems that the way that some outlets are reporting this ongoing story ,could in fact do more damage than good .As with some people on these threads ,that are goading eachother into what better weapons would do the most damage ,when the most destructive weapon is their Mouse/keyboard I know its just keyboard banter but my God theres some who really do want it too kick off. Syria is not a big news story for Putin. Unless we get fair warning and are able to build stuff in advance of a peer to peer conflict it wont matter, as it will be over too quickly. 'Also, if he just occupies the eastern regions he will never be able to take back the whole of Ukraine because of the inevitable strengthening of Ukrainian forces in the remainder of the country in the aftermath. There was the Orange revolution in Ukraine in 2004/5 that was the point that they started to orient themselves more with the West. They believe Mr Putin's troops are being positioned in line with his new objective, with armoured divisions set to head into neighbouring Belarus on exercise but now stationed within striking distance of Kiev. The Kremlin also deployed servicemen to Belarus this week, ostensibly for major military operations with the country, sparking fears in neighbouring Lithuania. pic.twitter.com/NDzRz2MwqU, Ministry of Defence (@DefenceHQ) January 21, 2022. In such a febrile atmosphere, the risk of a misunderstanding or unplanned escalation is greater, and Russia could use such an incident as a casus belli. This idiot wants Biden to start the war. . Maybe, but are you disputing the accuracy of my first sentence? Prime Minister Boris Johnson said the British warship, which was travelling from the Ukrainian port of Odessa to the Georgian port of Batumi, was acting in accordance with the law and had been in international waters. It was/would cost a big chunk of their budget to keep them operational and safe. Merkel should not have abandoned Germanys nuclear power generation capability, and become so reliant on Russian gas. The other question which has been posed before-if the Ukraine had not given up its nukes, would Russia risk starting a fight with them? George Allison Several missiles now fit the bill, but you still need to get round the issue of targeting information before you send it/them on their way. Published: 8:51 ET, Jan 24 2023 A RUSSIAN warship armed with "unstoppable" hypersonic missiles is sailing towards the US coast in a show of strength, reports claim. https://www.defensenews.com/naval/2021/03/17/us-navy-set-to-take-delivery-of-the-latest-version-of-its-tomahawk-missile/. If the RN really wants anti ship missiles, we would get them. ", DON'T MISS:Vladimir Putin braced for Kremlin 'ultra-nationalists' mutiny[REPORT] West puzzled after Putin evacuates warships and submarines from region [REPORT] UK tanks to cause 'real problems' for Russia on Ukrainian frontline[REPORT]. Id still bet the Poles will be doing a lot of footwork on how to help the Ukrainians. Historical connections with Lvov/Lviv arguably Polish for some. Preliminary analysis of the vessels suggests 3 groups. Russian warship with 'unstoppable' 7,000mph hypersonic missiles 'sails Supplying intel and light weapons will not change the outcome much , Russia will win regardless of the losses shell receive. Russian warships spotted off British coast - British Navy responds It seems a good time to propose it in the commons. https://www.janes.com/defence-news/naval-weapons/latest/turkish-navy-commissions-first-intelligence-gathering-ship. 'They discussed U.S. and international security and economic assistance to Ukraine, and the Secretary expressed appreciation for Ukraines continued calls for a diplomatic solution, stressing the need for Ukrainian unity in the face of the Russian threat,' Price said. British Defence Minister Ben Wallace accused Russian pilots of conducting unsafe aircraft manoeuvres 500 feet (152 m) above the warship. Agree entirely with what you say but I feel Trump was the one who emboldened Putin in the first place with his wimpish behaviour and with Biden following and little if any better, then no wonder Putin is considering pushing his luck. The Royal Navy has kept close watch as four Russian ships sheltered from rough weather in the seas off the east coast of Scotland. As for Corbyn and Johnson, I generally agree I just wish people could see its kind of theRead more , Hi Ron-no need to apologise, I enjoy your posts and know that things for all of us can get robust at times. The True Reason Why 7 Russian Warships off UK Coast - YouTube Will it damage to a ship? The Americans have just sent their first shipment of Aid to the Ukraine what was sent was classed as LETHAL Aid. Australia just signed an agreement with UK Defense minister to dedicate Wharf and logistics to readily accommodate Royal Navy ships basing them selves there . But T31 isnt designed or intended to be a high end anti submarine Frigate, more a general purpose Frigate for more day to day operations ,anti piracy ect but capable enough to operate as part of a task group. 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Boris take a private plane back to London from a climate summit in order to get to a party thrown by a conservative party donor .. is that not more irritating than a child asking the adults toRead more , the swedes attitude to defence equipment and production is very good. Russian warships pass through English Channel - UK Defence Journal General Carter also said the long anticipated Integrated Review of Foreign, Defence and Security policy, now expected in January, will herald the biggest shake-up of the army in a generation. The Russians will only invade if they think they can get away with it and thicko Biden has given them the green light by saying he wont defend Ukraine. Looking to impress on Moscow the need for de-escalation, he and Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov decided yesterday 'it would be useful' to meet in person on Friday in Geneva. Russian warships have been pictured off the coast of Britain, en route to a suspected bolstering of the bombing campaign on the besieged Syrian city Aleppo.. Royal Navy vessels were closely . We have historically supported the underdog in the face of the invading bully. Yep scapegoating the most powerful National leader in the world because his big stupid plan is tell the Russians he wont militarily defend the Ukraine. I think Irans aspirations in the region run much deeper than having mild cooperation with Russia. Therefore in theory at least for the narrowest Dover-Calais area we could do that. 5 The RN suffered badly in the Falklands through short sightedness and gaps in capabilities, and is sadly doomed to suffer again unless it takes the enemies and their capabilities and tactics seriously. Because I dont have anybody living on the USA/Canada so I dont know the situation. Similarly, the economic sanctions threatened by the US and the UK apply regardless of the scale of such action. Pity we dont have an enormous fleet of attack submarines to take out surface ships. This service is provided on News Group Newspapers' Limited's Standard Terms and Conditions in accordance with our Privacy & Cookie Policy. The Coast Guard said the ship is . Russia is allied with Iran, need I say more. Unless of course you are a Putin oligarch;0). Clearly I could be wrong on this. An analogy would be how the small number of US troops placed in both Syria and Afghanistan deterred attackers until they were removed andlook what follows. That is the role of EFP troops in Poland and the Baltics show of support plus being a tripwire. Unlike the Ukrainians who are, in the main, suffering out in the trench systems with a serious number of dont want to be here conscripts. Ukraine has long accused Russia of having regular troops in the region, something Moscow denies. Initially other then a echo sounder suite for navigation which is a safety requirement, there are no current plans for a ASW fit on the T31s, for the reasons you have stated. The two Russian vessels in the video released Wednesday are the first the military has announced operating off Hawaii since the new year. With what? Nope me neither. Except, Trump isnt the President, its the weak Biden who sits in the oval office and has for a wee while now. It seems Not! " Russian warship, go fuck yourself " [a] was the last communication made on 24 February 2022 during the Russian attack on Snake Island in Ukraine's territorial waters by border guard Roman Hrybov to the Russian missile cruiser Moskva. Thats if of the few Astutes we have arent already chasing their own Oscars or Yasen. Biden??? We are no longer accepting comments on this article. He said the countries were 'united in their resolve' against Russian aggression. "Even with the pressures of Covid, we remain at short notice to respond to threats both in home waters and around the world. But they need to be postured in way that showed the West meant business. My point still stands EFP is a deterrent/trip wire force to prevent Russia thinking she has an option to interfere in those countries. Forces would secure control of a canal that provided Crimea with fresh water supplies until Russia annexed the region and Ukraine stopped the flow, he said. I was considering calling them coffins but ill go with obsolete. Britain disputed the Russian version of events, with Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab calling it "predictably inaccurate". If the US had done this early enough the Russians would have back off. Invasion of a NATO state or even probably Sweden Im sure would. US coast guard confirms Chinese and Russian warships off Alaska Last night, Kiev hailed Britain for sending anti-tank weapons and troops as an 'important first step' to help the country defend itself. Western countries deem the Crimea to be part of Ukraine and reject Russia's claim to the seas around it. I really cant believe he wants to invade Ukraine. Its all well and good having such weapons, but they arent much good without good accurate targeting information. His views were backed by Labour leader Keir Starmerwho tweeted on Saturday: To protect our values and our security we must be steadfast in our opposition to Russian aggression. Much as he did in Syria . When people toured the Viktor Yanukovych presidential palace, they were shocked at the grandeurRead more , Step back guys, the roots of this situation lie decades ago. There are only two roads from Crimea that could be blocked or destroyed, a potential weakness, he said. Ill accept naval power but always is a bit sweeping. Using it just to illustrate how the forward presence of US/Nato forces in Eastern Europe may or may not influence Russian decision making. Yep 100%. EFP is tripwire forces (and not many of them ie only 3 Battlegroups in total) to prevent Russian incursions into Poland, Lithuania, Latvia or rather to reassue the peoples of those countries they are not going to affect the Russo-Ukraine situaution. THey may have a go at making life uncomfortable for the US there as well. Putin praised the ship's strength as it sailed off on its journey, saying: "The frigate Admiral Gorshkov is embarking on a long sea voyage. Meanwhile the potential peer foes, Russia and China, were very quietly building up their defensive forces initially and then offensive to a standard able to match a peer adversary. He said Moscow could try to seize Ukrainian coastal areas on the Sea of Azov, creating a land bridge from the Russian city of Rostov through Donbass to Crimea, adding: 'That would put the Ukrainian government under a lot of pressure.'. Coast Guard captain describes encounter with Chinese, Russian warships As its a shed load easier to detect an RF emission and from a lot further away with a highly sensitive receiver. General Sir Nick Carter delivering the annual Royal United Services Institute lecture. 14:30 GMT 20 Jan 2022. An armed Russian warship docked at a harbor in Cuba on Monday as Russia warned the U.S. against causing a repeat of the Cuban missile crisis. I apologize if you took offense with my tone, its not my normal voice. Ultimately, the maneuver ends abruptly. Military analysts said even if it overwhelmed Ukraine's army, which is half the size of its own, Russia could face guerrilla-type resistance, making it hard to hold on to captured territory. 11:10 GMT 19 Jan 2022 On Wednesday, the State Departmentapprovedthe transfer of U.S.-made missiles from Baltic NATO members to Ukraine. Could you tell me what youre drinking? Add in SPEAR EW, which will be an air launched jammer, creating false targets, and the bad guys are going to have a veryRead more . Russian Navy Landing Ships Seen Approaching Ukrainian Coast Near Odessa On Monday, two C-17 transporters left the UK with 2,000 armour-piercing missile systems and soldiers to teach Ukraine's forces how to use them. As this is different from Davids comment below Ill go away and try to get some evidence. To see all content on The Sun, please use the Site Map. Morning Douglas. one area that peeves me is that we no longer have the facilities to build produce the equipment fast enough. Spot on post! Should they choose to do so. Apart from Qaswem Soleimmani. But why would Russia deployed troops in Iraq 2003 to save Despot Sadams skin? A fleet of Russian warships and fighter jets, including the flagship aircraft carrier the Admiral Kuznetsov, has reached the North Sea and is headed for the English Channel, the UK's Ministry of . These vessels are more than likely head to Syria to onload stores. But the virus restrictions have meant few have been trained and tested to replace them. The diplomat hit out at Germany for failing to match Britain's offer of military aid, with Berlin preferring to focus on the threat of sanctions. 'Our strength depends on preserving our unity and that includes unity within Ukraine. We in the West lost sight of the long term strategic goal of the US is remaining the sole superpowewr. On 19 July 2020, another explosion hit a power plant in Isfahan Province. Im for one are hoping cool heads prevail. I stand by my comments and time will tell. All it takes is for 1 to get through! Trump was an idiot and poor president. 'It is the choice of President Putin and the Russians to make, whether they are going to suffer severe economic consequences or not.'. Pretty much what their President told them on the TV a couple of days ago. This stuff was going on long before sites like this were around to report it in the public domain. Earlier this year, Vladimir Putin said the 135-meter-long frigate would sail for the Atlantic, the Indian Ocean and the Mediterranean Sea with the latest generation hypersonic cruise missiles on board. More of your disinfo to correct here the US spends as much as the next 11 biggest spenders combined on defense nowadays not the rest of the world. Russian deputy Defence Minister Alexander Fomin confirmed that the mission includes the relocation of two S-400 mobile surface to air missile battalions, a Pantsir-S battalion and 12 Su-35 fighters for the 'surprise' inspection and drills. Most likely require a supplementary MoD budget? Social Media and Comment Moderation Policy, New British nuclear missile submarine reaches milestone, Despite funding concerns Type 32 Frigate still planned, European deployment successfully completed by Royal Navy, UK and US nuclear missile submarines send message to Russia, UK signs for Aster 30 Block 1 anti-ballistic missile weapons, Royal Navy seeking loitering munitions for ships, https://www.defenseone.com/threats/2022/01/us-sends-more-military-equipment-ukraine/361042/ , NATO battlegroup in Bulgaria reaches full capability, BBC announces new aircraft carrier documentary. In Moscow, Russia summoned Ambassador Deborah Bronnert for a reprimand over what it said were Britain's "dangerous" action in the Black Sea - while foreign ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova accused London of "barefaced lies". Do you regard all the military and NHS etc senior people joining companies after they retire that they may well have helped gain orders as corruption? 210 comments about a decades old routine RN escort operation. I think itRead more , Hi Dave ,knife through Butter with todays build of warships we can but dream a larger build of Destroyer with 6in either single or twin fully Auto good fire control radar no need for the old 274/75 sights or LAS just ops Rm fire controller and PWO but alas smaller ships and bores seem too be the way fwd with The MOD. At least they didnt decimate their armed forces like the UK and most of its allies as a result of peace dividend at end of cold war. HMS Tyne, HMS Richmond and HMS Kent jointly escorted the same group of Russian ships as they operated in the Celtic Sea. Your posts are very aggressive. Rocks?' Like pieces on a chess board, I suppose not all of the movements need to make sense. "We can appeal to common sense, demand respect for international law, and if that doesn't work, we can bomb," Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov told Russian news agencies. The result is a net drop in drivers. Yes and who do you think gave them the green light. It can be logically assumed that KALIBR capability willRead more . If you mean why T26 isnt fitted with ASROC, then that has been explained at length by many other commentators, and with very good reason. Tensions escalated at the end of last week after American officials claimed to have information that Moscow had deployed resources for a 'false flag' attack. Well they didnt of course and no sympathy was deserved . The assessment, seen by CNN, described the situation as 'difficult' and warned Russian President Vladimir Putin was 'trying to split and weaken the European Union and NATO' while also 'limiting the capabilities of the United States to ensure security on the European continent'. You are just scapegoating Douglas. Germany doesnt need anything but some supply depots and rear HQs. The Armys flip ups on procurement have disengaged us from effective land ops in NATO context. Count on enhancing economic & financial cooperation. Russian warship spotted miles from UK coast with hypersonic cruise I note that you seen to have accepted my comments on the US border debacle. Ukraine didnt invent the weapons so im curious how much of them they could have used and ultimately maintained over time. Its perhaps worth considering that just supposing a few Russian armoured/infantry detachments had been deployed in and around Baghdad at important government and military sites as peacekeepers/observers or an actual hostile force, then would the 2003 invasion of Iraq have taken place? SPEAR 3 will have a small warhead, but it will be very accurate. get her back in dock and rebuild her from the inside out. The anti-tank weapon systems weve sent out recently are a welcome contribution alongside the stuff the US sent out last year, but much more should have been done and long before now. Wallace should put his bloody foot down, overule objections and get an off the shelf system fitted PDQ. Itll make Snatch Landrover fiasco look trivial. To all and intents you could be correct, but heres the rub he is a dictator in all but name. As far as Im aware there isnt any part of the channel that is not either British or French waters. Their Intel also saying that they see no particular problem. They may be old but the Russians have used some of them very hard on the Russia/Syria Syrian Express run. Next time round-Hillary Clinton vsRead more , Grandpa Biden has been engaged with the Pentagon bigwigs and was informed that Troops had already been pulled out of Vietnam .Now have your 40 winks and Cocoa, You cant blame Trump for this. What sonar or anti submarine equipment will t31 possess? Broker a deal to have Russian military bases in their country. You must have access to a higher level of intel than me then. lol. George is on Twitter at @geoallison, Comments may automatically be held for moderation by our team, they will be approved as soon as possible in accordance with our. Our Standards: The Thomson Reuters Trust Principles. The conclusion was that Tiger stood the better chance due to her 6 turret being mostly electrically powered rather than hydraulic, like Blakes, so the presumption was shed be more reliable. Yeah easily mistaken for Japanese torpedo boats a few thousand miles off course. Iv said all along all the US has to do is move over a few B52s B1s and B2 to UK on a routine training mission. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); document.getElementById( "ak_js_2" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Well done RN. Several European nations have now moved to bolster Natos military deployment in eastern Europe. It could be solved if Ukraine finally implemented the Minsk Protocol it signed in 2015. As for unvaccinated drivers not being allowed to cross, well who wouldnt want to keep the chronically stupid out of their country? Without listing specific equipment plans General Carter hinted long-range precision rockets, air defence missiles and surveillance drones would be brought into service. The seven Russian ships - two frigates, three corvettes and two landing ships - were initially tracked by HMS Tyne, an offshore patrol craft. 'How can we be given a chance to defend ourselves if you're not giving weapons? Putins Russia isnt anywhere nearly as big and powerful as the old Soviet military and couldnt go toe to toe with the US. The weakness is in Biden. He is testing NATO unity and Bidens willingness to risk the wrath of those voters while knowing any faltering step in those voters eyes be it commitment of weakness will bring back a Trump style Govt withRead more , I do wonder if another motivating factor could be something more base than that. I was just using it as an example of how the presence of a capable foreign military in a potential war theatre could complicate strategies. In new training drills yesterday, three dozen Russian warplanes including Su-34 fighter-bombers, Su-25 attack aircraft and MiG-31 fighter-interceptors flew from airfields in Perm, Krasnoyarsk, Chelyabinsk and Sverdlovsk regions. If anybody wants to do a deep dive into the political corruption the FBI has to tackle, I recommend bookmarking/following ericgarland on Twitter. Russia's warns Britain over navy confrontation, Raab: Russia being 'predictably inaccurate', Britain says it will always defend seafaring rights, Russia says London is sowing barefaced lies. The talks between the two diplomats came just a day after Russia unveiled plans for naval drills involving more than 140 warships and more than 60 aircraft, seen as a show of strength. ', She said it mimicked the playbook used when Russia annexed the Crimean peninsula, and included social media disinformation to show Kiev as the instigator of violence. Chechen warlord 'seriously ill' but refuses to call Russian doctors over 'poison' fears Ramzan Kadyrov is the leader of Chechnya and a close confidant of Vladimir Putin "The U.S. Coast Guard is currently monitoring the Russian . Former Russian President Dmitry Medvedev last week warned the United States that the hypersonic missiles would soon be close to NATO's shores. A source familiar with the Russian Defence Ministry's thinking said this was the most likely scenario if Moscow decided to attack, but that he was unaware of any such decision. 'We are asking for more, and we are expecting to have more,' Mr Prystaiko told BBC Radio 4's Today programme.
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