All Rights Reserved. Another Toronto scout, Don Welke, had said the boy could run, throw and hit with some power. He was an animal, a bulldog-like [workhorse], and wanted to win like no one else. Longtime fans know all about that. Says Martinez: "He threw a home run pitch to Greg Luzinski in Chicago, and as the ball cleared the fence, Dave threw his hands up in the air and looked at me as if to say, 'How could you call that stupid pitch?' DETAILS BELOW. It was, Mattick concludes in retrospect, one of the smartest things he has ever done, no small claim for a man who signed the likes of Frank Robinson and Vada Pinson. Do you have a sports website? On the latter part, he is absolutely correct but on the former, he should definitely get some more consideration by the Modern Baseball Era Committee, who has yet to put him on one of their ballots. "Then," he says, "I'll be done with that career.". He fields his position well. The Blue Jays voluntarily renegotiated the last three years of his contract to pay him a higher amount in recognition of his years of service. With all the mistakes leading to runs, it's a testing type of circumstance, a challenge." [9] But arguably his best pitch was his slider that had a late and very sharp break, especially difficult for right-handed batters to handle. In mid-June, he got the call every minor leaguer craves. Dave Stieb's struggle is universal, gut wrenching, and inspiring. Mobilesite. I'm a real competitor who just doesn't deal too well with failure. Friends come to jam. Still Stieb had every reason to feel apprehensive, even peeved. 555 N. Central Ave. #416 He'll go over to the player and compliment him. All logos are the trademark & property of their owners and not Sports Reference LLC. A bobblehead giveaway will feature the likenesses of Stieb, Roy Halladay and Pat Hentgen on the same pedestal. Then, a few days later, bullpen coach Sal Butera caught him in the 'pen. Dave Stieb spent parts of 16 seasons in the majors from 1979 through 1998 with 15 of those seasons coming with the Toronto Blue Jays. But, says Jones, "the scouts couldn't know when he was going to pitch because we never did." 7-time MLB All-Star pitcher who played 14 seasons with the Toronto Blue Jays. "All he's got on me is two Cy Youngs and a World Series that he actually pitched in, Stieb said. Every Sports Reference Social Media Account, Site Last Updated: Saturday, March 4, 12:52AM. June 29, 1979 228mins Author: Ron Fimrite. "How do you not show up to something like that?" Dave Stieb is seen by many as the best pitcher in baseball throughout much of the 1980's. Jays fans certainly know Stieb as the first real star and the cornerstone of a new franchise around whom the 1992 World Championship team was built. 2/2: In January 1987, Dave Stieb was coming off his worst season, in stark contrast to having won the ERA title in 1985. The frustrated fan is roughly half the age of the celebrity guest. His pitching surprised and convinced the Blue Jays to draft him. vs. DET 0.1 IP, 2 H, 0 SO, 0 BB, 1 ER, Rookie Status: For more information governing use of our site, please review our Terms of Service. Again, Thank you", "Quick accurate bid, finish on time, excellent quality work, nice painters", "I was especially pleased with how much pride your company takes in its work", "Very impressed on time, cleaned up very nicely, efficient. In the past I have always prefaced my Jon Bois reviews by saying I don't even like baseball, I don't even watch football. Wouldnt use anyone else! I'm done. That winter Mattick took Stieb to the Florida Instructional League to work exclusively on his pitching. vs. BAL 6.0 IP, 6 H, 5 SO, 2 BB, 5 ER, L, Last Game: Stieb had done none until Jones asked him to fill in on an injury-afflicted staff in the middle of the 78 college season. As weve discussed recently, Stieb was one of the best pitchers to pitch in the 1980s. For example, Hall of Famer Whitey Ford had a career rWAR of 57.0 in 16 seasons, which is the same amount of seasons as Stieb. You forget how young he is. That is just above Don Sutton (50.3) and also above Wynn, Koufax, Ford, Kaat, Lemon, Morris, and Hunter. In his rookie year the right-hander tossed 7 complete games and a shutout while splitting his 16 decisions. He said no. Stieb made the diplomatic mission, thanking the Jays for the "generous contract" and promising to stay with Toronto long enough to make the community proud of its team. And he had great velocity. Portfolio. ", Stieb is an extraordinarily handsome man, tall and well built (6 feet and 190 pounds) with hazel eyes and a trim brown mustache, the baseball equivalent of Tom Selleck. He also came to bat that year in the All Star Game when American League Manager Jim Frey ran out of pinch hitters. Addressed my concerns in a prompt manner", "Jesse did a great job! The Jays offered him a shot to return in 1999 and work out of the bullpen. ", Stieb has had protracted and bitter contract disputes with the Blue Jays, invariably involving demands to be traded, but all was resolved this February when LaMonte, who still works as a teacher, and Blue Jay vice-presidents Pat Gillick and Paul Beeston agreed to a six-year deal that could pay Stieb, with incentive clauses, as much as $1 million a year. Many historical player head shots courtesy of David Davis. Instead, he spent a few years playing in the outfield for a local softball team as one of its home run hitters before the majors beckoned again for a short comeback in 1998. Jon Bois continues to take what is at first glance mundane material and make it completely captivating. Most are close to Stieb's agehe turned 59 on July 22, the day after his Vancouver visitand some are considerably older. We have tools and resources that can help you use sports data. Stieb has a higher WAR than five modern Hall of Fame starters, or starters who played most of their career after World War II. he says. ", "The paint crew was neat, courteous, and professional. It was cold and wet, not a pitcher's night, and because of the shoddy support he'd received, Stieb had already thrown more pitchesnearly 140than he normally does in a complete game. Instead, I watched a ton of baseball and spent the off-seasons reading about baseball. So will Morris, who spent 15 years on the writers ballot and just missed induction through it. He has come so far in such a short time. Injuries also played a role in curtailing Stiebs career and preventing him from accumulating more of the counting stats Hall of Fame voters so value. I ask him how he thinks he stacks up. He ended up winning 158 games in the 1980s, which was. We are very please and will definitely call Mastercraft if we have needs in the future", "Very easy to work with. Im very happy with the quality of the work and professionalism of John, Colt & Mike", "An absolutely wonderful job quick, clean, professional and amazingly through! Learn more. "He was shaking his head yes before I said a word. They're used to throwing to targets. The first 10,000 fans will receive a Stieb Bobblehead", "Catching up with Blue Jays legend Dave Stieb about his new life and improbable comeback", "How Much Watching Time Do You Have This Weekend? He glowered and muttered on the mound. Bob LaMonte, who lives only a short drive from Stieb's parents' modest Spanish-style home in San Jose and who was Stieb's high school history teacher and special teams football coach (Stieb averaged 42 yards a boot in his two seasons as a punter). July 22, 1957 Search Details, Dave Stieb's Contact Info, Social Profiles & More ", "Keep doing what you are doing. Always on time and Jays helpfulness selecting the final color", "Always a great job by the crew thats why I always call Mastercraft for my painting needs", "History, professionalism, & quality employees", "Employees do their job well and answer any question you may have. Stieb noted Saberhagens JAWS rating, the stat created by Jay Jaffe of Sports Illustrated which rates Saberhagen as the 66th-best pitcher in baseball history and Stieb as 67th-best. Film data from TMDb. You may not use our site or service, or the information provided, to make decisions about employment, admission, consumer credit, insurance, tenant screening or any other purpose that would require FCRA compliance. Letterboxd Limited. I had butted heads with him before about alienating his teammates, so we had a conversation the next morning about it. You've made our house look brand new again! We went through a year every two weeks, one week for discussion (everyone was required to defend all of their votes) one for voting, starting in 2003.. "He's like me, Stieb said, looking at Saberhagens numbers. "No way he should be thanking me. Very pleased with all your company. He did not look back until spring training in 1998, when the Jays invited him to Dunedin as a guest instructor. Dave Stieb was one of the best pitchers in baseball in the 1980s and he played for the Toronto Blue Jays for parts of 15 seasons. I'm going home to Nevada in a few days. And the control. A few years ago, he joined two friends in a construction firm. He is also still underappreciated by the Blue Jays today who, inexplicably, have yet to retire Stiebs number, despite being the best player in franchise history. Building under construction. A clear, bulleted list of tasks and materials is exactly what I want to see. I realize now I could've had my butt kicked for the stuff I used to do. He was underappreciated when he played as he, arguably, should have won three or even four AL Cy Young Awards while with the Blue Jays in the early- to mid-1980s. The contract, including options exercisable by the team, was for a term of ten years and specified a salary that increased to $1.9 million in 1993, $2 million in 1994, and $2.1 million in 1995. They were very professional at all times", "Quality work, good crew, glad we selected MasterCraft", "I cant think of one thing, the crew that worked on this job was very professional. the most among any pitcher. Kyle and Chris were not only the hardest workers we have seen, but were also courteous, on-time every day, and took great pride in their workmanship. Didnt forget any part of the job. That would look really bad," he says. He takes the same hard stance with other candidates, even friends. So it was exciting again, and it was cool to do that at 40 years old. We didn't monkey around with his mechanics at all. So instead, we talk about his successful, short-lived comeback with the Jays at age 40, and his new career as a building contractor, and his continuing passion for playing heavy-metal guitar. I said a lot of things I shouldn't have. But by then, his pitches were darting and diving in the 'pen and the itch was back. The next year, when he finished at 12-15, he played in the All Star Game. "He has a tremendously competitive attitude. But all of these happened in the 1980s or in 1990. To both he responded, "No way." I call it a feel. He posted a 1-3 record and 4.83 ERA in 19 games, including three starts. "Eventually, you figured out that he was almost always angry.". He currently resides in California, United States. Bois and Rubenstein are the greatest documentary makers, ever. He is known for being a Baseball Player. By continuing to use our site, you consent to the placement of cookies on your browser and agree to the terms of our Privacy Policy. And that must be considered one of the wonders of American sport, a true phenomenon, because until that fateful spring of 78, Stieb had never pitched at any levelLittle League, Pony League, Colt League, Thorobred League, high school or junior college. Stieb has other assets. Dave Stieb had hall of fame stuff. "Like Lemon," says Widmar, "Dave knows how tough it is to hit. Keep up the excellent work! Baseball Primer (later Baseball Think Factory). . ", "You guys are great. Javascript is required for the selection of a player. It was a frustrating time for him, but he learned to pitch his way out of it by moving the ball around. Genuinely one of the most life-affirming pieces of storytelling to come out this year. Stieb had been asked to try pitching by his Oak Grove High coach, John Bessa, and, at the behest of a pro scout, by his San Jose City College coach, John Oldham. It defined me then, not now.'". Watch our How-To Videos to Become a Stathead, Subscribe to Stathead and get access to more data than you can imagine. Ironically, Stieb was not selected to the All-Star squad in '82, thanks to a first half start of 7-10 with a 3.96 ERA. "He was absolutely overpowering. I was fortunate to have players around me who could deal with all that. He had made the big leagues in his first full season as a professional and at a position still strange to him. Stieb came to the Instructional League with two pitches, a "heavy" fastball that naturally dropped and a slider developed for him by Newman at Southern Illinois and polished by Toronto's minor league pitching instructor, Bob Humphreys. Do you have a blog? He initially retired after the 1993 season due to back problems but after four years of retirement, Stieb rejoined the Blue Jays in 1998, when he pitched in 19 games (three starts) with an ERA+ of 98. Shows how smart we were. But I realized at the end of that season that man, it's a lot harder throwing with the stuff I had. He worked without taking breaks-except for lunch. It wasn't the first time Dave Stieb had taken the mound for the Salukis. He had such a desire to excel. Dave Stieb Stats, Fantasy & News. Stieb never went on the disabled list until excessive working out in 1991 gave him a herniated disk in his back, aggravated by a collision near first base that spring. There was a rain delay in the fourth inning. ", An astute decision it was. JL. Dave Stieb was born on the 22nd of July, 1957. [1] A seven-time All-Star, he also won The Sporting News ' Pitcher of the Year Award in 1982. Im sure we will be back in the future", "We were fully satisfied with all aspects of the service. Directed by Jon Bois. Then he thought of his old adversaries in the press corps. Dave Stieb weighed 185 lbs (83 kg) when playing. It is just too bad they dont pave driveways, repair roofs, and do landscaping! Two hours before his autograph session in Vancouver, I interview Stieb as we stand in the half-light of the stadium's lower concourse. But by traditional measures, the former Toronto Blue Jays ace might have looked far short of a plaque, with sciatica and other ailments chasing Stieb away from the game in his mid-30s and limiting him to 176 wins. Next thing I know, I'm at the (minor league) complex with all the young kids and I'm going, 'What have I done?' won three or even four AL Cy Young Awards while with the Blue Jays. [1] A seven-time All-Star, he also won The Sporting News' Pitcher of the Year Award in 1982. We are 100% satisfied with the excellent quality of work. Phoenix, AZ 85004 Afterward, Roger Clemens told him he should still be pitching. "I've never had a dj vu experience like that in my lifeso many things that were the same. I felt comfortable having your employees at my home even when I was not there. [2] Stieb was known for flirting with no-hitters, having reached the ninth inning with no hits four times in five years before accomplishing the feat in 1990, throwing the first, and to date only, no-hitter in Blue Jays history. Born in Portland, Oregon, he played college football at Port read more. Search Details, Dave Stieb's Phone #, Address & More Only Jack Morris won more games in the 1980s. Stieb has heard, by the way, that some people think Morris was the best pitcher of the 1980s because he had the most wins of the decade at 162. You are the best", "We received a bid prior to you although the $$ were different you pay for what you get and I am so glad we chose Mastercraft Painting" "Professional and attention to detail", Carson City Business License #11-00007495, Nevada State Contractor's License #35106A, "He comes at you and has good control," says Lachemann. Thanks for doing a great job. 7-time MLB All-Star pitcher who played 14 seasons with the Toronto Blue Jays. "I was living in Lake Tahoe and just loving life and being with my kids and stuff, Stieb said. I also loved the estimate! It is difficult to imagine Stieb patiently embracing this experience in his playing days. He has good stuff. Mattick recalls having heard something about Stieb's pitching, but he and LaMacchia were there to look at him strictly as an outfielder. ", "You and your crew are far superior to any other repair people or workers weve had in the past", "You were very professional, very fair in your bid and the house looks excellent", "You did what you said you would do and you did it well, and did it for the price quoted. No-Hitters, .avia-section.av-k6v62xgq-c0812a68936ee67ed4883eaa9d35be9b{ Mastercraft does a very professional job. It's out of my system. This fall, hell be eligible for the first time as a veterans candidate on the Modern Baseball Committee ballot. 14,202nd in major league history) "I was not going to have all the media, who already heard this was happening, a day later go, 'Oh, he's not doing it.' . It's like a beautiful piece of music, played out over one of the longest units of time in any major sport: the career of a dominant baseball player. "I said, 'I've come full circle. I have fun with it.". 2022 "The biggest thing to look at is the kind of team he was on (the Detroit Tigers) and the kind of team I was on, Stieb said. [19], Stieb's older brother, Steve, was a catcher and pitcher in the Atlanta Braves minor league system from 1979 to 1981.[20]. "I feel like I was good," he says. Kyle and Chris were not only the hardest workers we have seen, but were also courteous, on-time every day, and took great pride in their workmanship. He didn't, in fact, become a full-time pitcher until 1979. from the SABR BioProject, More Dave Stieb Pages at Baseball Reference. They kept the equipment well organized. If you got a hit off a good pitch, he'd look at you as if to say, 'How did you hit that pitch?' It's all in what they call the rhythm. On one hand, Stieb said he wasnt that surprised with the outcome. MLB.TV Buy MLB.TV Buy At Bat MLB . Do Pattie and Dave want Andrew to be a fireman or follow in his father's footsteps as a starter? David Stieb, (775) 825-3312, 2650 Plumas St, Reno, NV | Nuwber David Stieb from Reno, NV Also known as: Mr David Stieb, David Stieb View Full Report Mobile number View Current Number Landline number (775) 825-3312 Email addresses VIEW EMAIL ADDRESSES Current address 2650 Plumas St, Reno, NV, 89509-8700 See more results for David Stieb in Reno, NV Dave Stieb is a building contractor and plays electric guitar. ", "Always happy with your work! The Hall of Fame is more indicative of somebody having consistency throughout their whole career and dominating numbers throughout their whole career, he said. Before that, he was one of MLB's best pitchers, and made a triumphant return to the mound in 1998 after a five-year hiatus. Around the time of the book Moneyball, WAR (then called WARP) and Win Shares were invented and I fell in with a group of baseball nerds at a site called Baseball Primer (later Baseball Think Factory) who decided to fix the Hall of Fame's many errors by starting over from scratch and electing the people who really deserved to be inducted, starting in 1898. Photo by John Lott. "He didn't want pitching to interfere with his hitting," says Bessa. He had that good slider. In the shortened 1981 season, he became the first starter in the history of the Toronto franchise to have a winning season11-10. He has just enough of it left to present one more altar to the gods and say goodbye.". I felt like I was stuck. My worst problem with the guitar when I first played it, I wanted to play speed metal. Danny is very professional, cordial and does a good job", "Mastercrafts employees are easy to deal with and professional", "Dependable, on time, take pride in their work", "Everything and everyone from start to finish were fabulous. He ended up winning 158 games in the 1980s, which was. Baseball doesn't define me now. Efficient, professional, and timely", "It was nice to know I could trust Jesse with my house and key and not worry about being there. "It's like an insult, Stieb said. Thus a Stieb game rarely lasts longer than 120 pitches. For nearly two hours, Stieb signed autographs and posed for photos in Vancouver. We're interested now in developing the total man.". Dave apologized to me for that incident and that sort of thing has never happened again. The 65-year-old baseball player was born in California, United States. He finished the '79 American League season with eight wins and eight defeats for a team with 109 losses. Other statistics attest to this as well. By Wins Above Average, the chasm between Stieb and Morris in the 80s is even wider: 28.1, best in the decade for Stieb; 9.0, 31st-best for Morris. Sometimes when Stieb pitched, it did not look like he was having fun. As of 2023, Dave Stieb's net worth is $100,000 - $1M. Disclaimer: PeekYou is not a consumer reporting agency per the Fair Credit Reporting Act. [4] Previously, on September 24 and 30, 1988, Stieb had no-hitters broken up with two outs and two strikes in the top of the ninth inning in two consecutive starts. My home looks beautiful! The former MLB pitcher lives here. It was the third time in two seasons that Stieb had lost a no-hitter with two out in the ninth inning. ", "I was concerned having people in my home since I live alone, but your crew made me feel very comfortable", "Service and quality are excellent - My garage floors are bulletproof and the envy of all my friends!!
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